America and its stupid aircraft carriers

Today, I was “Unprofessional”…

There has been a rash of comments on posts covering the tsunami relief either bashing the US for not doing more or (when its pointed out that the US is actually doing something) that it doesn’t matter how much the US does, it should be doing more. The US government should have given more, unless it’s given more, in which case it should be giving more. US citizens are stingy and should donate more, unless they’ve donated millions of dollars already, in which case they should be donating more.

First of all, when it comes to opinions from our friends overseas, I don’t really care. (Yes, yes. I realize that my position probably just means that we should be giving more.)

A commenter on my own site kindly forwarded a list that “proved” the US wasn’t doing much on a per capita basis. These lists are all the rage these days. For those that really care, anyway. The commenter (refreshingly not anonymous this time) noted that the US was only contributing only 2.3 Danish kroners per citizen compared to 76 kroners per Norwegian. He finished

Come on USA – you can do much much better than that!!!!!

And I responded

How many aircraft carriers has Norway contributed? How many helicopters? How much airlift? How many personnel?

Come on Norway and Denmark — You can do much better than that!!!!! Just send one measly little aircraft carrier and then we’ll talk Kroners.

Besides, the numbers in the article you mention are badly out of date. Private citizens and corporations of America haven’t contributed 677 million kroners, they’ve contributed 2509 million kroners at the current exchange rate. (Other nations, too, have increased their totals, I’m sure).

USS Lincoln: Paid for at a cost of around 22,800,000,000 Kroners of US taxpayer money and kept manned and at sea with additional billions Kroners of US taxpayer money.

Its funny that no one really wants the US to keep out of international politics. They just want us to keep out of international politics that don’t benefit them.

So this morning Chuck Simmins (whose Stingy List now shows that private US citizens and corporations have donated about 2,859,153,224 kroners) points out a post on Varifrank that goes something like this:

Today, during an afternoon conference that wrapped up my project of the last 18 months, one of my Euro colleagues tossed this little turd out to no one in particular:

“See, this is why George Bush is so dumb, theres a disaster in the world and he sends an Aircraft Carrier…”

After which he and many of my Euro colleagues laughed out loud.

and then they looked at me. I wasn’t laughing, and neither was my Hindi friend sitting next to me, who has lost family in the disaster.

I’m afraid I was “unprofessional”, I let it loose –

“Hmmm, let’s see, what would be the ideal ship to send to a disaster, now what kind of ship would we want?

Something with its own inexhaustible power supply?

Something that can produce 900,000 gallons of fresh water a day from sea water?

Something with its own airfield? So that after producing the fresh water, it could help distribute it?

Something with 4 hospitals and lots of open space for emergency supplies?

Something with a global communications facility to make the coordination of disaster relief in the region easier?

Well “Franz”, us peasants in America call that kind of ship an “Aircraft Carrier”. We have 12 of them. How many do you have?

Some day, the “rest of the world” is going to look back and realize that it should have been a little nicer at times to ol’ Uncle Sam.

Yeah. Right.

More thoughts on the aircraft carriers here.


  1. Its funny that no one really wants the US to keep out of international politics. They just want us to keep out of international politics that don’t benefit them.’ True, true. I’m afraid it goes even farther, though – they also want the US to keep out of international politics for which they can’t take credit, while still bashing the US. Good works are never enough. And I’m not surprised you don’t really care what they think. What surprises me is that anyone still does.

  2. No good deeds go unpunished. I have no idea how much my christmas money is in kroners, but more than half of it went to the Red Cross I.R.F. How much are nuclear powered aicraft carriers on the market anyway?

  3. They don’t sell them in Kroners. They only come in Dollar and Pound varieties. There isn’t one country out there that can say they outdo America’s generosity. Go see the graves at Normandy, or look across the DMZ in Korea, or look at the pictures of smiling little Iraqi Girls in school. Not ONE. The rats don’t like it, they can kiss my ass. I just spent a weekend with about 85 people that put those smiles on those Iraqi children’s faces. I’m humbled and amazed at the generosity, the courage and sacrifice, the willingness to answer the call of duty. Don’t ever tell me we don’t give enough. Yes, the Tsunami killed a lot of people, and yes, I think we are doing one hell of a job. The Baathists/Saddam killed an average of 100,000 people a year. I think we’ve done an even bigger job already, and all we get for it is non-stop shit from the rest of the world. Well U.N., and EU and anybody else badmouthing the U.S…. this is for you. Go to Hell.

  4. Sorry, Murdoc. I don’t normally talk(type) like that. Guess I have a bad case of ‘disenchanted Americanism’

  5. Excellent article and posts! I think many of these folks are so ‘predisposed’ to USA bashing; if you gave everything and served it on a golden platter, it would still be too little. BLEEP them! On the other hand–some US citizens aren’t above the petty guff either. All this counting contributions up to see who gave the most, gave the most per capita, gave the least, ad infinitum; are really small minded people with too much time on their hands. They obviously AREN’T helping with the disaster relief as they have enough time to bore me with stats. BLEEP them too! Get off your duffs and DO something you losers! Big TY to the untold millions who helped out, dug into their pockets, or did whatever they could. Whatever it was, it was fine with me, and I’ll bet the disaster victims are glad you pitched in too.