Yale students support return of ROTC

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Yale Daily News:

Of the 1,346 undergraduates surveyed this November, almost 70 percent support the establishment of an ROTC unit on campus. Nearly 300 respondents who are not in ROTC expressed interested in participating in the program, and almost 100 said they would consider joining ROTC if a unit were established at Yale.

Almost 40 percent of students said that they would welcome ROTC back at Yale regardless of “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell” [emphasis Murdoc’s]

I think that last bit is pretty significant. Over a third of Yale students don’t think DADT was sufficient reason to ban ROTC. Only 16.5% of those surveyed were against ROTC on campus, which is probably not much different than the percentage of US citizens at large that would be opposed to it.

So more than twice as many students are in favor of ROTC regardless of DADT as are opposed for all reasons combined.

This site has received comments in the past about how Ivy League or liberal blah blah blah universities are no place to recruit officers for the military, but Murdoc disagrees. Not everyone who attends liberal-leaning schools is a Liberal, and not all Liberals would made bad military officers.

I think all the removal of ROTC and recruiters from many college has done is limit the pool of potential servicemen and women, particularly those with higher education. And it’s certainly done nothing to limit the gap between the military and large portions of the US citizenry.

Will we be seeing ROTC and on-campus recruiting re-established at all the schools who banned it in the wake of DADT now that DADT is going away? I doubt it, as the leadership of many of those schools had probably been waiting for a reason to pull the trigger and DADT was merely a good excuse. Some schools will probably be pressured by others to conform. Others will decide against it because they will perceive that campus is not the place for the military, overlooking the fact (maybe intentionally) that the reason for that perception is that the military was ejected from campus by them in the first place.


  1. I doubt the results would have been different 10 or 20 years ago. The pool of future professors and school administrators is drawn from the 30% who hate the military. The rest will seek gainful employment in the private sector.

  2. I agree Bram.

    I think the students at yale who wish to participate in the ROTC must travel to Harvard for the classes and Drills.

    Too bad the government doesn’t have the guts to pull all Federal assistance from schools that don’t participate.

    I guess there are still too many Pelosi and Reid types at the helm for that to happen.

  3. Only 16.5% of those surveyed were against ROTC on campus, which is probably not much different than the percentage of US citizens at large that would be opposed to it.

    That 16% is the small, but vocal professional protester class that campaigns for everything from banning ROTC to more diversity set asides.

    Yale and other Ivies are a definitely a step up from the state university I attended, but I imagine there are similarities. In my day that vocal 16% held protests for any thing that did not fit their worldview. In fact, I remember once a fraternity was going to have a 1950s-themed party. I guess people were supposed to show up looking like the cast of the old tv show Happy Days. Believe it or not, the professional protester class organized and protested because this party was celebrating the 1950s. Such a celebration was an affront to their sensibilities because the 1950s was the era of segregation and closeted homosexuals. They could not conceive of anyone wanting to celebrate such a terrible era in our history.

    I don’t ever recall whether or not the protesters succeeded in preventing that party. I just remember hearing about it a calculus class and thinking how on Earth do those protesters have the time to study and attend silly protests.

    1. People with an agenda never have a sense of humor.

      Reminds me of the movie PCU. “This penis party’s got to go, hey hey, ho ho!”

  4. This reminds me of something I read on John T. Reed’s blog a while ago;
    “The most delicious aspect of ending the “Don’t ask, don’t tell policy” would be forcing the colleges and universities who ban ROTC and military recruiters to admit their real agenda: they just hate the military. As long as the “Don’t ask don’t tell” policy exists, the academics can cite that as their reason for banning the military.”

    That alone makes the lifting of DADT worth it!


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