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Pulling out the big guns

Jay Tea at Wizbang weighs in on this subject. Do not miss MO’s coverage from yesterday, which has set a land speed record for comment posting on this little site.

And while you’re at it, don’t miss MO’s Pearl Harbor post, in which the USS Nevada shows us what battleships are made of.


  1. Very well written. Brings up alot of points ive been struggling to make. Those ships deserve to be preserved so that future generations can see how the US Navy kicked *** and took names in WWII up until the 1991GW.

  2. Thanks so much for the link and the implied praise. As I said, you’d be hard-pressed to find a civilian who loves the battlewagons more than I do, but given the sheer pragmatic challenges involved in bringing them back (ZERO industrial support for the machinery, guns, or ammunition — all would have to be tooled up from scratch — and the huge manpower requirements, I’m afraid I just don’t see it happening. I freely admit I’m an oddball. In some ways I think the South Dakotas are better-looking than the Iowas (although the clipper bow on the Iowas is a true work of art), there’s something about the RN’s Orion class that just moves me (even with the spotting nests being BEHIND THE STACKS, right where the coal-fired smoke would billow) and I even like those European treaty-freaks, the Nelsons and the Richelieus. But their day is past. Maybe we should have put more into NGFS long ago, but dragging them out of mothballs yet again isn’t the answer. It’s a solution looking for a problem. J.

  3. It seems the naval vessels of old melded form and function beautifully. Many battleships looked like works of art as opposed to weapons of war.

  4. Jay, though I’m loathe to say anything negative about the Iowas, I think I might agree with you on the South Dakotas appearance-wise. Simple and to the point.

  5. Hmm, you know what would be fun? Get a bunch of people to rate various weapon systems for ‘beauty’ and ‘effectiveness’ and graph them. (You’d want to use informed people for the effectiveness rating, but anybody can say whether they like the way it looks). I wonder if you’d get a good correlation? I think you might. If so.. what would that mean?